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Vaxxers, Anti-Vaxxers still eating one another

I received a link from a person that you would all know.  The issue here is that Robert Malone is being eaten by the community that advocates for anti-vax principles and various other health advocates.

Malone is being accused of being a plant, a deep state operative, controlled opposition, who aims to take the focus away from what are ‘the real health advocates or the health freedom movement’, to the deep state shills.  The attack is led by a Dr. Peter Breggin, a psychiatrist, and his wife.  (I don’t know them from a bar of soap).  Eventually, Malone was maligned to such an extent, that he sued the Breggin team for 25 million.

From this page, you can see the size of the attack.  https://breggin.com/Dr-Malone-Others-Weigh-In

(Some of the links go to strange places, and so far, I cannot find Jon Rappoport’s writing).

Here is another ‘size of the attack’ page:  https://breggin.com/Threats-from-the-Desmet-Malone-Mass-Formations-and-Mass-Psychosis

The attack is vicious and the Breggin team has written complete websites to Malign Malone.

Seemingly the issue in all the attack pieces is that Malone still works in the formal industry and he has not completely broken with the orthodoxy.  Seemingly it is forgotten that he is a highly accomplished researcher and that money for research has to be granted.  Malone cannot go off on his own, and do .. what?  The nature of the attack becomes clear if you read the issues around Malone having horses, i.e., he must be too rich.  This is while the Breggin team on their photos each pose with very expensive I think Collie dogs on their laps.  Well, Malone’s dog is a horse.

The Breggins on the other hand are portrayed as kind and sweet people, committed to their anti-psychosurgery focus and they make their money out of therapy and medical expert testimony.  (Sure, we know what a clean industry that one is!)

The main problem though in my view, is that Malone is quite international in his reach, and this is how the Breggin couple is portrayed:  “The Breggins also has a long and distinguished record of standing up for free markets and a strong America, and they were leading the charge against covid insanity whilst most of us (myself included) were still lacing up our shoes. Now, at the ages of seventy-one (Ginger) and eighty-six (Peter), the Breggins find themselves engaged in a lawsuit that has the power to destroy them.” https://patrickdhahn.substack.com/p/the-fight-of-their-lives-mrna-scientist?sd=pf After that follows the request for money.

There also is an extreme intervention into the work of the man who came up with the terminology of ‘mass formation’, Mattias Desmet.  Malone added ‘psychosis’ to that, to describe what was happening in the United States and elsewhere in terms of people’s overwhelming acceptance of the COVID-19 vaccination.  He did not use this terminology to nix the anti-vaxxers but used it to describe the ones who accepted vaccination.  So Breggin says the terminology does not exist in psychiatry, therefore the behavior does not exist.   But as far as I am aware, it is fair for a professional to posit a hypothesis.  And surely Breggin has never been to a rock concert.  We are human, we resonate and even I can give Breggin some valid DNA studies for that even on the biological level only.

(All I can say, is that maligning others may end up in one having to stand up for your words, and advocating for a strong America does not give license to rubbish others.)

Having gone through some of the material in the link given, I have a question.  But first, most of these people have lost all my support.  Turning into a mass bunch of rabid attackers only exposes a depth of darkness in their own beings.

So, to the question.

The question is not about Malone,  It is about principle.  Malone may have gone off the rails, I don’t know and I am not advocating for him.  I am advocating against this widespread attack that we see here.

So, consider that you are in shoes such as Malone.  A highly educated researcher, not in favor of vax even though he built the structure and said clearly it is not ready for prime-time, and having to continue working in what you love.  Where and how would you do that?  And all these various organizations that suddenly are anti-vax and standing for health, what health?  What are they standing for?  Where were they in terms of vaccination before Covid?  I can tell you, mostly nowhere.  Is their business model simply accusations toward Big Pharma (which Big Pharma deserves x ten), or are they presenting a health protocol that actually is effective?  We cannot throw all of the research and the current medical fraternity away.  These are the guys that have the machines (and the money) that research created.  Even though I stand for alternative medicine, I know throwing the baby out with the bathwater will not bring health breakthroughs.  There are procedures that a well-trained medical person can bring to the table.

What would you do?  Where are we going in terms of health?

Here is one of the shorter videos that will give you a quick overview.  This whole and complete loose formation of the health freedom movement is anti-China.  If he still considers China a ‘totalitarian state’ even calling out XJP, well, then you know the politics of the man and why he is writing websites to Malign Malone.  This is just a sick and nasty political take-down:

 

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QC?
QC?
13 days ago

Thanks for the space of freedom of speech on this issue again, dear 🙂 p/s history will account for all the ‘fors’ and ‘against’ and hell and heaven will separate ‘them’… ‘us all’ I will just make 2 points here (and consider my ‘date promised’ to Col checked and done… Read more »

QC?
QC?
13 days ago
Reply to  amarynth

man are the ones tested by fire! … and b4 that ‘they’ were just butt naked kids running around and pretend to rule the world! Its hard for white ppl not to join the anti-chi-com song… … but then again they dont have thousand years of history as reference! same… Read more »

AHH
AHH
13 days ago

I hate to say it, being in the belly of the western Medical Cartel Beast, but there is a whirlwind about to be reaped. Much of this is titillating show, to waste folks’ time and energy. And to bitterly divide them (herding them into false duality) and to demoralize potential… Read more »

Last edited 13 days ago by AHH
QC?
QC?
13 days ago

with medical news like this, which is supposed to be authoritative, Australia is reporting a 17% increase in heart attacks in the first eight months of 2022 alone, and establishment paid researchers seem to be deliberately avoiding any mention of the covid mRNA vaccines. Instead, they are continuing to blame covid… Read more »

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QC?
QC?
11 days ago
Reply to  amarynth

Boston Uni 🙂 dear, you have any new news on new ‘remedy’ any new ‘cures’? any development on that kind of thingy? Ivr is good but I think we might need more, a lot more on the NEXT one (if) coming…. what do you think about propolis? be well be… Read more »

AHH
AHH
11 days ago
Reply to  amarynth

I apologize I am of little help. Very few vax damaged around me and I’ve been too demoralized to really explore topic. I got out of the major hospitals work and into largely teaching academic medicine before the politicization of this issue, and I doubt I would have lasted long… Read more »

emersonreturn
emersonreturn
11 days ago
Reply to  AHH

so very true, ahh. we humans, each of us unique & our bodies all behave differently. i’ve had covid twice, the first oct/nov 2019. b/c it was so early no one in victoria bc had any idea of what it was i was dealing with. my recovery was entirely in… Read more »

Col...'the farmer from NZ'
Col...'the farmer from NZ'
11 days ago
Reply to  amarynth

Wow… absolutely no surprise that this is what they are doing, but for a Pfizer Director to be this criminal and totally morally bankrupt simply boggles the mind as to just how patently evil this company is.

Col...'the farmer from NZ'
Col...'the farmer from NZ'
11 days ago

OUTRAGEOUS AND MERCILESS CRIMINAL COERCION OF YOUNG KIWIS TO RISK THERE LIVES WITH mRNA TOXINS… just one example of the kind of appalling tactics that were used… and and dreafull indictment on Auckland University. VAX THE NATION… a crude rap song was used in NZ at the end of 2021… Read more »

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Anil
Anil
11 days ago

AHH, thanks for the link to the article on NAC. This was recommended by our Canadian Covid Care Alliance, among other suggestions, such as black cumin seeds, etc. I did get NAC and nigella sativa from Amazon last year. The Ivermectin I ordered from the UK, however, got confiscated by… Read more »

AHH
AHH
11 days ago
Reply to  Anil

Imho, like many, I think enforced masking is deliberate harmful intent. Prolonged use not only reduces oxygen content as you point out, which leads to anoxic environment in which thrives covid, but also (2) promotes secondary bacterial infections since people tend to wear the same mask for days at a… Read more »

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frankly
frankly
10 days ago

Wow strange have not been to your site in a while and here you are on this topic. Never heard of Breggins till a month or so ago and my intro is him maligning Desmet’s Mass Formation ideas, which is very academic and pretty deep stuff. I think it must… Read more »

Col...'the farmer from NZ'
Col...'the farmer from NZ'
10 days ago

NZ DIRECTOR GENERAL OF HEALTH THREATENS THE NATION When the NZ Govt was still imagining that they could get close to 100% of Kiwis jabbed they were making all sorts of threats including this one from Ashley Bloomfield who until July 2022 was “our” (sic) Director of health. … quoted… Read more »

Anil
Anil
10 days ago

Col, the situation in New Zealand does sound bad. The inmates appear to be taking over. You have poisoning by the injections, and also the fluoride. Good to see you are holding your ground, success will come, slowly at first, then all at once. I had always thought, rather smugly… Read more »

Col...'the farmer from NZ'
Col...'the farmer from NZ'
10 days ago
Reply to  Anil

Yeah, so many traps out there Anil.

Who would have thunk… mercury (50% of the content of dental amalgams were mercury) and fluoride… two of the most dangerous neurotoxins on earth, and yet a big chunk of humanity habitually put them in their mouths.

Go figure!
Col

frankly
frankly
8 days ago

Read somewhere the flouride is the toxic residue of a process, fertilizer? Too expensive to dispose of so they ‘use’ it on us. Kinda like Depleted Uranium, the side affects are not intended of course. Who knew all that pesky science stuff?

Col...'the farmer from NZ'
Col...'the farmer from NZ'
8 days ago
Reply to  frankly

Yes precisely frankly

It’s business. Instead of spending a fortune on disposing of this neurotoxin they have talked many of our flock into consuming it instead.

They turn a massively problematic disposal cost of a by-product into very lucrative sales. This does wonders for the corporation’s profit and loss statements.