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Also please view Lone Wolf’s detail update on the previous thread here: https://thesakeris.global/2022/08/26/smo-update-and-extended-comments-hypothesis/#comment-190

What was planned as a limited update is growing (updating 2 hours after original post). From https://vz.ru/news/2022/8/27/1174665.html is Russia’s latest stance, and presented forcefully (machine translated and lightly edited):

The State Duma demanded Ukraine’s unconditional surrender

LDPR leader Leonid Slutsky
said that Russia will consider the possibility of negotiations with the Ukrainian side only if it is ready for unconditional surrender, as well as if Ukraine is ready for a qualitative reduction of its armed forces and complete denazification.

“I want to explain to the nationalist gentlemen. We are ready to consider the negotiation process if the Ukrainian side is ready for unconditional surrender, if the Ukrainian side is ready for a qualitative reduction of its armed forces, complete unconditional denazification, ” the parliamentarian said in a video posted on his Telegram channel.

The last contact between the two countries was in July, when quadrilateral talks were held in Istanbul with representatives of Turkey, the UN, Ukraine and Russia on the organization of the export of agricultural products from the Black Sea ports.

Earlier, Mikhail Podolyak, an adviser to the head of the office of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, said in an interview with Babel that the very fact of such negotiations would mean Russia’s victory over Europe and Ukraine, a civilizational catastrophe, and the fall of the entire global security system.

Earlier, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said that there is a “last line” after which Kiev will refuse to negotiate with Moscow.

We are talking about the trial of the Nazis who abused civilians in Mariupol. Zelensky said that Kiev’s reaction to this will be unequivocal.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, in turn, said that in the current situation, peace talks between Russia and Ukraine do not make any sense.

Russia’s Permanent representative to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, said that he would like to see a negotiated solution to the conflict in Ukraine, provided that the goals of the special operation are achieved.

The last contact between the two countries was in July, when quadrilateral talks were held in Istanbul with representatives of Turkey, the UN, Ukraine and Russia on the organization of the export of agricultural products from the Black Sea ports.

Earlier, Mikhail Podolyak, an adviser to the head of the office of Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, said in an interview that the very fact of such negotiations would mean Russia’s victory over Europe and Ukraine, a civilizational catastrophe, and the fall of the entire global security system.
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Podolyak has it correct. That is exactly what Russia is aiming at.

2 Comments

  • Lone Wolf

    “FOG OF WAR” ADJUSTMENT
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    I waited to publish anything on Kodema, aware of the triumphalism that populates news outlets, even those on our side. Telegram channels were cautioning about declaring Kadema fallen, until yesterday when several sources confirmed it had been taken by Allied forces.

    https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/kodema_vzjata_idet_zachistka_srochnye_novosti_s_ukrainy_28_avgusta_karta_boevykh_dejstvij_za_poslednij_chas_17_video/60-1-0-12907

    Codema is taken – cleaning is underway. Breaking news from Ukraine-August 28. Map of combat operations in the last hour (17 videos)
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    https://topwar.ru/200938-podrazdelenija-sojuznyh-sil-ustanovili-kontrol-nad-kodemoj-pod-artemovskom.html

    Units of the Allied forces established control over the Kodema near Artemivsk
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    https://t.me/intelslava/36106

    According to a number of reports from the field, Kodema completely came under the control of the Russian army.
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    https://t.me/war_subtitled_en/551

    Key village of Kodema near Bakhmut is taken, sweep is underway, several war correapondents report. #breaking
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    However, today I learned from one of the sources I quoted earlier confirming the taking of Kodema, “Military Chronicle,” the town is still in dispute, half the town is under control of Wagner PMC, which are fighting against superior numbers.

    https://voenhronika.ru/publ/vojna_na_ukraine/nastuplenie_na_kharkov_prodolzhaetsja_gorjachie_svodki_s_ukrainy_novosti_boevykh_dejstvija_za_poslednij_chas_18_video/60-1-0-12909

    “…Situation south of Bakhmut: heavy fighting is underway for Kodema. Despite the bravura statements of some channels with reference to local chats and the peremoga prevailing among the DPR channels, the settlement of Kodema, located south of Bakhmut (Artemovsk), was not taken. Assault detachments of the Wagner PMC are fighting against superior enemy forces for the equipped fortified area of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the village. At best, half of the village is controlled, but this control is very conditional…”
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    “Fog of war” can be treacherous, when it comes to reliable news.

    Lesson learned? No. When four reliable news sources said a town is taken, it might have been taken, that doesn’t mean it will remain so in the next 6, 12, or 24 hours. How many times can a hill or a town change hands in one day? Many. We just have to keep our eyes open for fresh information coming our way.

    Sorry about the disappointment.

    C’est la guerre.

    Lone Wolf

  • Lone Wolf

    UPDATE ON KODEMA
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    A foggy situation developed about Kodema after initial reports from several reliable sources confirmed it had been taken by Wagner PMC. Those were followed by other reports denying the taking of Kodema, some from the same sources that had first confirmed it.

    Wagner PMC released a video with a Kodema sign in front of them, while reporting their position to their commander.

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/6526

    Wagner in Kodema almost fully taken- below Bakhmut
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    The video was followed by a report on the,

    https://t.me/Slavyangrad/6542

    Situation in the Battle of Kodema at the end of 28 August 2022

    On 28 August, a video appeared with a salute of the Wagner PMC assault units from the eastern part of #Kodema village, located south of #Bakhmut (#Artemovsk).

    Despite the bravura statements of some DPR channels, the settlement is not yet fully occupied.

    The advance of the Wagner PMC fighters is hampered by the numerical superiority of the AFU militants as well as by barrages from the dominating heights.

    To the west, the village borders on a hill on which a fortified position has been built. The entire village is clearly visible from the hill and can be shelled from there.

    However, the PMC assault forces have already succeeded in capturing half of #Kodema and it is likely to fall in the next few days.

    The capture of #Kodema is important for the further clearance of the southern approaches to #Bakhmut.

    Although the PMC units there have reached the Patrice-Lumumba Street, the storming of the town has not yet begun. This can only be discussed once the former #Artemovsk has been taken in a semicircle and the entire southern flank is in Allies´ hands.

    The slow advance in the #Avdeevka direction was due to the desire to keep infantry losses low.
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    The first report was not that far off the mark by asserting Kodema had been taken by Allied forces, even if only partially. The report that followed denying the first one did not clarify the conditions inside the town, only stating Wagner PMC was fighting against superior forces, which for them is normal, they do that on a constant bases.

    The latest report gives us a better perspective.

    Half the town is taken, battle continues for the other half, and to dislodge the AFU from firing points in fortified positions. If Wagner PMC is fighting for Kodema, the town will fall in the following days, no doubt.

    Lone Wolf